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[Da Ill One]

Originally Posted by cornyjohn

You win. Hands down. I don't know what you win, but you just won it. That was priceless.

I question why God would want to create a race of worshipers if he knew that over 3/4 of them would end up being atheist, worship another religion, or be Satan worshipers. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a perfect God to make imperfect people.

Don't say because perfect people would be gods, because if God were perfect, he would have to concern himself only with the perfect, so all his people should be perfect. Creating imperfection means He is no longer perfect.

When you copy something either through scanning or faxing or copy machine...it is NEVER a 100% copy there is always something off even slightly but it's never perfect...

god made humans as COPIES of himself...the more you copy a copy the worse it gets... did you see the movie Multiplicity?

[cornyjohn]

But if God is perfect, He most certainly make exact copies of Himself. I mean He is the so-called almighty creator of all that exists, yet He can't make people perfect? He must be imperfect.

No, I've never seen that movie.

[Da Ill One]

Originally Posted by cornyjohn

But if God is perfect, He most certainly make exact copies of Himself. I mean He is the so-called almighty creator of all that exists, yet He can't make people perfect? He must be imperfect.

No, I've never seen that movie.

noone ever said he COULDN'T make people perfect...he also gave people free will which means that everyone starts life off perfect...but they have the CHOICE on how to live it...

it's why Lucifer and alot of angels who followed him became the minions of evil...because they were pissed off that god gave humans free will...which gives us a reason to beleive or not believe and follow in his footsteps or not follow in his footsteps...

DOGMA was based on Alot of "Facts/beliefs" of why there is a devil in the first place...Lucifer was the highest most powerful angel under god...now he's the second most powerful being in existence...he why you choose not to beleive in god...

[cornyjohn]

Well to be honest I must agree with Lucifer. I don't quite understand why God would give us free will (if he exists).

[Reizo_PR]

Jesus Christ...He made people like him...Not as HIM...He didn't make copies of himself. He's GOD not a human...He made people to His similar...

He gave us free will, to see if he either save ourselves...our save others to save ourselves...He gave u the choice to see who among us will go to the Heavens...Lucifer decided to be gluttonous...And he resides with all the people like him, with no SELF-Moral.

[taco31]

A personal opinion of how I view why god made people imperfect is because what if God intended to make us imperfect because it is through our mistakes and imperfections that we as human beings develop and grow? And also wouldn't it be a plain and dull world if everybody was perfect? Would life even be worth living?

[Greatheart]

Originally Posted by cornyjohn

Well to be honest I must agree with Lucifer. I don't quite understand why God would give us free will (if he exists).

Man was perfect, but then we sinned. God gave us free will so that we would truely love Him. Otherwise we would just be robots. God wanted us to choose to love Him.

[Spyder]

Originally Posted by Greatheart

Man was perfect, but then we sinned. God gave us free will so that we would truely love Him. Otherwise we would just be robots. God wanted us to choose to love Him.

Yeah, plus if everyone was perfect, as taco said, life wouldn't even be worth living.

[Sanctuary1492]

God could have made us imperfect for a variety of reasons.
He could have made us imperfect to make himself look better so we would turn to him for guidance.

Secondly my biggest question is... If angels lack free will... HOW could they turn on/ Hate god. If they were perfect they would be incapable of jealousy

thirdly omg the stuff the christian/cath god allows to happen and the stuff he puts people threw... DID he realy have to have a man crucifide inorder for him to forgive us for sins. couldnt he have just said im forgiving your sins.

and lastly this is one of the great reasons im pagan. we worship many or one god that doesnt just suit our tastes but we can get along with and speak with as a friend and not beg forgiveness every five seconds in a building worth thousands of dollars. Most pagans have an altar worth 300 dollars max they place somewhere in their house to honor their god. They perform rituals and ask for miracles or help or guidance not out of ZOMG GOD FORGEIF THIS SINNER BUT CAN U LEIK HELP ME WIN TEH LOTTOZ... its more deep then that. Most of us believe our god is a part of us who we can ask more as a friend and follower for help strength guidance etc... I will admit i hate the fluffy wiccans... Blessed be geif lotto winz plox so mote it be plox. most of us prefer to do the things our self while honoring our patron god without begging for handouts. my ABSOLUTE favorite part of paganism in sweden is... Pagans have no real bible... they arent wiccans obbsessed with spells and laws of 3x3 etc... we just wing it and we arent forced to conform to some mass belief book we forge our own way in life and interpret things as we please

[Agravain3]

Originally Posted by Shooterman

Yeah, but Chicken Soup for the Soul does the same things for people that the Bible does, but with less genocide and prejudice as a result.

shooter that was to funny, i love you man


you getting mad props for that one.

and Sanctuary1492 is god that selfless that he needs to make himself look betteR? i mean if he is real then why would he care?