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Old 11-09-2008, 11:49 AM   #11 (permalink)
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he'll actually spend the rest of his juvenile years in a state boarding facility and then will be released (likely) at the age of 18 with Supervision...
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Old 11-09-2008, 12:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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he'll actually spend the rest of his juvenile years in a state boarding facility and then will be released (likely) at the age of 18 with Supervision...
I hope that's the way this goes. It seems most appropriate.

When you're 8, its not like you've never seen a gun before. In movie, game, picture of a book, unless sleep all day in your house. But I hope what Hombre said is what will happen to the boy.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:23 PM   #13 (permalink)
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he took som1 elses life i think he should die
give him the death penalty
i agree with you, however because he is 8 he will most likely be put in juvi until he is 21 or 18. at wich point he will be let out. and i think thats bad because allot of kdis who spend there childhoods in jail only know jail and tend to be adult in jail and really dangerous.

they should kill him, but they wont cuz hes 8. so maybe they should put him in a mental hospital
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:28 PM   #14 (permalink)
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he'll actually spend the rest of his juvenile years in a state boarding facility and then will be released (likely) at the age of 18 with Supervision...

Now see, that sounds plausible for an 8 year old kid. Like I said, no one has said he did it on purpose, and I doubt he did do it on purpose. Some time to think about what he did should do.


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i agree with you, however because he is 8 he will most likely be put in juvi until he is 21 or 18. at wich point he will be let out. and i think thats bad because allot of kdis who spend there childhoods in jail only know jail and tend to be adult in jail and really dangerous.

they should kill him, but they wont cuz hes 8. so maybe they should put him in a mental hospital
Now see, that just sounds insane. Killing an 8 year old kid because he may/may not have accidentally killed 2 people? Going a little overboard, aren't we? He just needs time alone, in a cell, to sit and think about what he did, for a few years. Admittedly, maybe until he's 18 is a little too long, but you do know that in juvie they still give kids like him an education, right?
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well if we let him walk that would send the wrong message. here he would think " i can kill 2 ppl and get away with it" and you cant tell me that you think he is smart enough to know that, that is not the case. because in a few post ago some of you were saying that he prolly doesnt know what he did. cim afraid it dont swing both ways.

but blue dont get me wrong i dont think killing him would be right eigther.

spend the next 10 years in jail , or the rest of his life in a mental hospital.
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Old 11-09-2008, 01:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Mental hospitals are what cause most people to go insane to start with.... you try spending your life strapped to a bed/ tied up in a white padded room/ confined to one room with little outside provisions. Like any other kid, he simply just needs to be taught. He needs to know that what he did was wrong, and that the next time if anything even close to this happens, it'll be a lifetime in a much worse place than where he will be at, or death. Note I didn't say that "the next time you kill someone", I said "the next time something even remotely close happens", so don't get confused.
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Old 11-09-2008, 02:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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well if we let him walk that would send the wrong message. here he would think " i can kill 2 ppl and get away with it" and you cant tell me that you think he is smart enough to know that, that is not the case. because in a few post ago some of you were saying that he prolly doesnt know what he did. cim afraid it dont swing both ways.

but blue dont get me wrong i dont think killing him would be right eigther.

spend the next 10 years in jail , or the rest of his life in a mental hospital.
We (I read the other posts and feel like I can confidently state for everyone else) did not say that he should go free, UNLESS, of course, this was an accident. That will be admittedly hard to determine.

However, saying anything short of killing the boy is not punishment enough is just wrong. There are much better solutions that will shape him into a better citizen in the future.

Mental hospitals are a lie. The human psyche isn't so easily changed as most think, although in this case, at such a young age, it would be easier to mold it.

Let me put this into context: think of the Christian church as a mental hospital. Now think of yourself as a practicer of any other religion. Try to imagine how hard it would be to convert an adamant Buddhist, Muslim, or, geez, even a different branch of Christianity to what you believe.

I've never EVER seen a member of a Church of Christ to agree to any of the beliefs a baptist had.
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Old 11-09-2008, 02:35 PM   #18 (permalink)
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We (I read the other posts and feel like I can confidently state for everyone else) did not say that he should go free, UNLESS, of course, this was an accident. That will be admittedly hard to determine.

However, saying anything short of killing the boy is not punishment enough is just wrong. There are much better solutions that will shape him into a better citizen in the future.

Mental hospitals are a lie. The human psyche isn't so easily changed as most think, although in this case, at such a young age, it would be easier to mold it.

Let me put this into context: think of the Christian church as a mental hospital. Now think of yourself as a practicer of any other religion. Try to imagine how hard it would be to convert an adamant Buddhist, Muslim, or, geez, even a different branch of Christianity to what you believe.

I've never EVER seen a member of a Church of Christ to agree to any of the beliefs a baptist had.
Here here, well said At this point in his life, it's better to mold him instead of trying to change/kill him for what he did. Exactly as Corny has already stated
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Hmmm. That's pretty horrible. There is a very strong difference between knowing that death is real, and knowing that death is pernament. The kid KNEW what he was doing, he didn't KNOW that it would cost him his dad and = years in prison. It's one reason that young kids shouldn't have exsess to violent video games.
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Hmmm. That's pretty horrible. There is a very strong difference between knowing that death is real, and knowing that death is pernament. The kid KNEW what he was doing, he didn't KNOW that it would cost him his dad and = years in prison. It's one reason that young kids shouldn't have exsess to violent video games.
I think a lot of people see "knew what he was doing" and take it as "HE 100% ABSOLUTE FACT KNEW THAT HE WAS KILLING HIS DAD AND PLANNED TO DO SO THEREFORE HE SHOULD DIE". By saying he "knew what he was doing", it only means the boy can't plead that he "wasn't aware". This does NOT mean that he planned anything in advance, because like I said, it could quite possibly be an accident.

I know that guns kill. Suppose I am carrying one, and I trip and accidentally drop it. By chance, the gun fires, and lodges a bullet in an innocent person, killing him. Am I guilty of premeditated murder because I know guns kill?
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