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Old 11-16-2008, 02:46 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm afraid that he will bring change. Will this change be any good? No, most likely not. So far, all of the things that I've heard him say he wants to do scare me. I do not support him at all. He obviously has the Congress to do things, as well as the public support, as seen in the election. I think that our country is in serious trouble
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well i really dont have much hope for him. just cuz he wants to let homosexuals get married, and babbys to be aborted, and he wants to "spread around our wealth" , he also wants to skin us gun owners and if it were up to him he would get rid of guns or so ive heard.

im scared of him & his powers. but he might do soemthing good.
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He is either going to be praised for peventing a depression or dispised for us falling into one...
so one way or another there will be change!
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Yeah, he's just an out of control democrat that got in the Whitehouse and scored 60% democrat's in Congress. What has he promesed to do that is good? I don't know. Being aloud to kill baby's doesn't sound right no matter how you slice it, and if homo's can live together, why do they need to through such a fit over being married?
The gun thing is in the constatution and he can't do a thing about it, but he still suports it, and that's not okay.
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Yeah, he's just an out of control democrat that got in the Whitehouse and scored 60% democrat's in Congress. What has he promesed to do that is good? I don't know. Being aloud to kill baby's doesn't sound right no matter how you slice it, and if homo's can live together, why do they need to through such a fit over being married?
The gun thing is in the constatution and he can't do a thing about it, but he still suports it, and that's not okay.
And the funny thing is, everyone is getting worked up about issues that aren't intrinsic to our survival.

Guns? Who needs 'em?

Abortion? Pro choice. It's not my kid.

Homosexuals? They're shunned as it is.

See what I'm getting at? Everyone wants their one little issue solved, but in the end, how much better off are we all? Little to none.
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well i really dont have much hope for him. just cuz he wants to let homosexuals get married, and babbys to be aborted, and he wants to "spread around our wealth" , he also wants to skin us gun owners and if it were up to him he would get rid of guns or so ive heard.

im scared of him & his powers. but he might do soemthing good.
i know youve stated many times that youre a republican and all...but dude, cmon. he IS taking office after an 8 year republican term...and look at the mess he's adopting from bush.

lets not forget that bush had most of congress in his first term.

and dude, who cares that hes pro-choice and who cares that he doesnt get sick to his stomach when people talk about the same sex getting married.

easy to answer both of these questions.

first of all, who cares about his pro-choice views? if abortion really is murder (like most pro life people think it is), then how come they dont have a funeral for every aborted baby? how come theyre not counted as part of the population? how come most pregnant parents say "we have 2 children and one on the way" rather then just simply "we have 3 children."

simply put, because it doesnt matter. the more you talk about abortion, people always bring up "the sanctity of life". since when is life sacred? if life is so sacred, then why do we kill animals? because we're hungry. why do we kill insects? because theyre pests. theres nothing sacred about the crabs, is there? so basically, we humans have made the entire "the sanctity of life" thing up. the only life thats sacred is the life that we say is.

ive gone WAY in depth with this pro-choice pro-life thing...so ill wrap it up with this. abortion doesnt matter, because frankly the only people who should be making these types of decisions are the people who are facing the decisions. its not like that kid being born is going to impact your life that much, if at all.

and with homosexuals getting married...who cares? just because the bible says NO YOU CANT DO THAT doesnt mean they cant do it. they have the right to be ***, and they have the right to be happy god dammit. and why does it bother you that people are *** and getting married? seriously, do you sit at home all day and just go " DAHH PEOPLE ARE ***!!!....DAMMIT!!"

more then likely, no you dont...because it doesnt affect your life at all that somewhere out there 2 guys are playing tummy sticks.

so basically what im saying is to say you dont believe in obama because of his pro choice and views toward *** marriage, then you totally have misunderstood the main obstacle that we as a country face, and thats our crippling economy.

and i dont think you have to worry about your guns being taken away...the only reason the government would EVER try to take away a persons right to own a gun is if the government was ever concerned with a COMPLETE revolution.
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I think you miss the point Meatwad.
In the oppinian of a pro-lifer, all life is sacered. But, really aren't smart enough to count as intelligent life. And they never will be. But an unborn baby will be someday. So if you don't want a baby, don't get pregnant.
As for ***s, I believe that being *** is wrong, but that really doesn't matter politacly. What is going to bug me is that they are trying to pass hate-crime stuff.
Here is an example of what they are trying to pass.

Joe has plenty of money but he mugg's a guy for the heck of it. He gets caught.
Bill is broke and needs money. He muggs a guy, who turns out to be ***, but Bill didn't know that. Bill gets a hate-crime punishment, because ***s are speicle and need to be protected. Joe does five years, Bill does eight.

And my tax dollars go to feeding and taking care of Bill whiles he's spending his extra time. And they are going to pay for marigge beifits for ***s, something I don't think is right. What I want to know is; if the ***s are the minority, then where are they getting all this support?
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#1-homos-why i dont belive in ghey maridge is cuz getting married is a holly thing and ***s have no right to coem in and ruin such a holy sanctity. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE! and me and my friends will fight for whats right.

#2-abortion-all americans have the right to life liberity and the pursuit of happieness. the only time this should ever be dis-regaurded is when you have commited an act that has a deserving repercustion.

#3-Economy- bush inhearted the econmy from clinton, bush has done good.

YouTube - Rush Limbaugh engages an ill informed liberal caller.

i know this video is old but its true.

like many christian americans i have already taken a stand, and i will not be comprimised, i will fight for what is right. i can see ure veiw, but i disagree.
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#1-homos-why i dont belive in ghey maridge is cuz getting married is a holly thing and ***s have no right to coem in and ruin such a holy sanctity. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCE! and me and my friends will fight for whats right.

#2-abortion-all americans have the right to life liberity and the pursuit of happieness. the only time this should ever be dis-regaurded is when you have commited an act that has a deserving repercustion.

#3-Economy- bush inhearted the econmy from clinton, bush has done good.

YouTube - Rush Limbaugh engages an ill informed liberal caller.

i know this video is old but its true.

like many christian americans i have already taken a stand, and i will not be comprimised, i will fight for what is right. i can see ure veiw, but i disagree.
So true. I couldn't agree more.

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#3-Economy- bush inhearted the econmy from clinton, bush has done good.
So, you're trying to tell me that 8 years down the road from Clinton, we go into a depression, and it's HIS fault? I think not.

In any case, FDR's New Deal wasn't designed for long-term use, and it's time for a change.
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