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Old 11-17-2008, 03:59 PM   #21 (permalink)
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So, you're trying to tell me that 8 years down the road from Clinton, we go into a depression, and it's HIS fault? I think not.

In any case, FDR's New Deal wasn't designed for long-term use, and it's time for a change.
well corny john, when obama gets the presidential chair and the econmy still stinks due to his beliefe in NFTA. you all will be blaming bush, and when u do i will repond ure your exact words

also watch the video, he better explains it than i could.
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Old 11-17-2008, 03:59 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So, you're trying to tell me that 8 years down the road from Clinton, we go into a depression, and it's HIS fault? I think not.

In any case, FDR's New Deal wasn't designed for long-term use, and it's time for a change.
What a coincidence when the democrats took over Congress we get into a recession (not depression, at least not yet). I'm not saying the Republicans are perfect or even near it, but they are closer to the right way to go than the Democrats.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:02 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I will say this.

IF you don't like that he may bring change and make things better. Then go up and take his place. See how well you would last up to the feeding frenzy of the Media and the rest of the world listening and keeping every word.

per Agra's quote

like many christian americans i have already taken a stand, and i will not be comprimised, i will fight for what is right. i can see ure veiw, but i disagree.

You say you fight. To be completely honest. No you don't fight. If you had the will to fight then you would take it upon yourself to change this government. Every man woman and child that lives in the United States as it's citizen has the right to remove the powers that lay. But then again you would need to have the support of the population.

Please stop using the Term Christian American. Like many christian americans? Exactly what percentile are we talking here? Hmm? 50%?, 70%?, wait thats right. It's probably 10% or less. If you looked at the figures. Alot of Christian Americans supported Obama in this election.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I will say this.

IF you don't like that he may bring change and make things better. Then go up and take his place. See how well you would last up to the feeding frenzy of the Media and the rest of the world listening and keeping every word.

per Agra's quote

like many christian americans i have already taken a stand, and i will not be comprimised, i will fight for what is right. i can see ure veiw, but i disagree.

You say you fight. To be completely honest. No you don't fight. If you had the will to fight then you would take it upon yourself to change this government. Every man woman and child that lives in the United States as it's citizen has the right to remove the powers that lay. But then again you would need to have the support of the population.

Please stop using the Term Christian American. Like many christian americans? Exactly what percentile are we talking here? Hmm? 50%?, 70%?, wait thats right. It's probably 10% or less. If you looked at the figures. Alot of Christian Americans supported Obama in this election.
i see ure point, i just know in my community there are many like me. but before u disreaguard me understand im not alone with my cause. im not even the founder of it.
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well corny john, when obama gets the presidential chair and the econmy still stinks due to his beliefe in NFTA. you all will be blaming bush, and when u do i will repond ure your exact words

also watch the video, he better explains it than i could.
I was defending Clinton. I wasn't pretending to push the blame on anyone. It's certainly not Barack's fault.

So, go ahead and quote me, but I don't really see a point.
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i see ure point, i just know in my community there are many like me. but before u disreaguard me understand im not alone with my cause. im not even the founder of it.
Your cause?
And what exactly is your cause?
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Your cause?
And what exactly is your cause?
i diddnt say it was my cause, me and greatheart said it was a cause we belonged to, but we diddnt "make" it.
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Let's think here:

Scattered communities vs. rest of nation.

Can you say: "OVERKILL"?

Plus, there are much more religions in America than just Christianity. And since the entire reason for founding this country is religious freedom and tolerance, we have to honor that commitment. Touting Christianity for an excuse against anything in this country is invalid.
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Let's think here:

Scattered communities vs. rest of nation.

Can you say: "OVERKILL"?

Plus, there are much more religions in America than just Christianity. And since the entire reason for founding this country is religious freedom and tolerance, we have to honor that commitment. Touting Christianity for an excuse against anything in this country is invalid.
well what i mean as my cause is simply this.

i will not let anyone scilence me because it is offensive or politicly incorect. i do not regret me veiws, and i will not let anyone say im racist cuz i dont support obama, i dont support obama cuz i dislike his veiw. and yes i have been verbaly atacked on the ent and in real life for being a republican. also i will not sit back and let some polotician from any party degrade the morals of this country. they will certinly not disregaurd my religion. or anyone els's.

i believe in traditional American Values, im not bitter im blessed. and religious freedom does not mean comprimising it. thats what i believe. now as you begin to flame me and ahte me and de rep me and forumlate your anti-agravain3 cliuqes think about what your doing? your putting me in a corner like the jews did to the christians a long time ago, like the whites did tot he blacks in the 18-1900's and we will come out swinging.

please also ntoe i dont want to harm obama i just dont want obama to harm my country. ive thought about what would coem of the death of obama and it is not a good thing, nor is it the solution. as of right now i dotn know what is ebst for america, all i know is that obama issnt and i wont be muted, WE wont be muted.

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I will be frank I'm fearful about Obama being the next president.

#1 He wants to shut down Guantanamo Bay. Now why would you all of a suddenly shut down a prison that has terrorists as it's inmates and not only that but POW's (Prisoners of War) who want to see nothing more than America to burn to the ground?

#2 His inexperience. Let's face it how much experience has he had in office as a senator, when has he ever ran a business much the less a country. Heck the biggest pay-check he received was off of a few books he wrote. The world will test him and he better be ready.

#3 Try to disagree with him. Go ahead try and you get slammed by every media outlet out there for being a racist or bigget. It's something else when you go to see the articles on the magazines or newspapers with headlines like "I think I'm a pretty cool dad" or instead of being the US Marines they are "Obama's Marines".

#4 He wants to "spread the wealth around" . Now that's a broad definition. What does it mean? Well you can go to work earn about 300K a year and guess what as a reward YOU get to give it to someone who doesent work. So what do you do? I'll tell you what I would do I would quit working and get some of the money from the other people who work. Great job to fix the economy. What about Obama should he spread his wealth around? He only took in a record breaking millions upon millions of dollars. What does he think then?

#5 What about Obama's "Internal Defense Force"? What exactly does it defend? Why is there a need for a force that Obama claims will be as powerful as the US military under his direct command? I think I have hear of similar things like the KGB.

Anyways my opinion. Love it, Hate it whatever. It's what I think feel about the "change" Obama wants to bring to the table.
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