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Old 11-15-2008, 07:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Obama: will he really bring change?


Seriously. I want to give him a chance and all, and personally I think It'll be sort of like bush only with *** marriage and abortions. I want your opinions.

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Old 11-15-2008, 07:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not as much as he says he is going to bring. He can only bring change with Congress's support.
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wow we are really doing another one of these again.

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Good point... If congress is the prez's arm, then this is gonna be a big one
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I'm pretty sure he'll try. Not sure about the doing. Time will tell.
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he will change stuff, no doubt. over 60% of congress is democratic, so if everyone follows him like he is messiah then he will get a bunch of stuff changed. will it be good? i dunno but from what he has said i say no.

i ujsut wana see him take down N.F.T.A if he does that i will respect him, until then i dont care what he does as long as he dossent take away my guns and let abortions be leagle.
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Obama is now privy to the secrets and what not of the economy and the world and he's finding out that it's going to be a lot harder to bring the kindof change that he wanted to bring....our economy is a lot worse shape than even he thought and it's going to take some time for him to even try to bring his ideas into fruition...he's got to clean up messes before he can begin to impliment his regime....

so in the short answer...it will be hard for him to do anything that he wanted to do until everything else is cleared up...
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Obama is now privy to the secrets and what not of the economy and the world and he's finding out that it's going to be a lot harder to bring the kindof change that he wanted to bring....our economy is a lot worse shape than even he thought and it's going to take some time for him to even try to bring his ideas into fruition...he's got to clean up messes before he can begin to impliment his regime....

so in the short answer...it will be hard for him to do anything that he wanted to do until everything else is cleared up...
Yeah, I love it when they make all these promises to lobbyists in order to accrue campaign funds, but then can never back up their hollow words.

That's when I tell all the supporters, "I TOLD YA SO!!"

And, I despise the use of "he will do", because "he" does only half of the "do"-ing. It takes Congress's support to ratify any of his actions, so the correct way of saying it is "they will do".
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what scares me is that over 60% of cognress id now democrats. so the republicans cant vote down a plan made by obama if the democrats follow obama into his "changed" world.

as rush limbaugh said "A nation was never taxed into prosperity"
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what scares me is that over 60% of cognress id now democrats. so the republicans cant vote down a plan made by obama if the democrats follow obama into his "changed" world.

as rush limbaugh said "A nation was never taxed into prosperity"
Just because you're part of a party doesn't mean you support each and every decision made by people within your party.

I'm not saying it doesn't help to have a majority in Congress, because it does. But even if Obama becomes radical, the Democrats probably won't support it.
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