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Old 10-31-2010, 06:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Your saying emptying a drum mag out of a Thompson SMG doesn't sound like fun?
sure, it sounds like fun that doesn't necessarily mean i need to own one though. seriously...automatic weapons were made for one reason : killing people.

i say own your handguns, shotguns, rifles. but military weaponry? sorry, but that kind of stuff shouldn't be handed out to civilians IMO.
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Old 10-31-2010, 07:44 AM   #12 (permalink)
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sure, it sounds like fun that doesn't necessarily mean i need to own one though. seriously...automatic weapons were made for one reason : killing people.

i say own your handguns, shotguns, rifles. but military weaponry? sorry, but that kind of stuff shouldn't be handed out to civilians IMO.
You think gangs and the other bad guys can't get their hands on military weaponry?

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Reporting from Mexico City Drug traffickers fighting to control northern Mexico have turned their guns and grenades on the Mexican army, authorities said, in an apparent escalation of warfare that played out across multiple cities in two border states.

In coordinated attacks, gunmen in armored cars and equipped with grenade launchers fought army troops this week and attempted to trap some of them in two military bases by cutting off access and blocking highways, a new tactic by Mexico's organized criminals.
Mexico drug gangs turn weapons on army - Los Angeles Times
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You think gangs and the other bad guys can't get their hands on military weaponry?


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The difference is that an unarmed man against a guy with automatic weapons is going to get his brains blown out (unless he's a kung-fu master, but we're talking average people). However, give that same guy a handgun and he has a fighting chance against anyone with any kind of weapon. Sure, it might still be advantage M-16 gangsters, but to say that every person out there should have ridiculously excessive weaponry just because someone else might is insane. Maybe while we're at it, people should all have their own personal arsenal of nuclear bombs, hmm?
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lol, ok? if these guns were available on the market they'd be even easier to get a hold of...lol.
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lol, ok? if these guns were available on the market they'd be even easier to get a hold of...lol.
I think his point is, the people we DON'T want to have automatic weapons ALREADY have them. So we might as well give responsible people some to defend themselves. And I suppose I agree with that statement.
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I think his point is, the people we DON'T want to have automatic weapons ALREADY have them. So we might as well give responsible people some to defend themselves. And I suppose I agree with that statement.
the point is that military weaponry is just that = weapons for the military. civilians dont need weapons like that to defend themselves...lol. civilians have a hard enough time being responsible with handguns, shotguns, and rifles to begin with. it's pretty damn easy to get a gun to begin with, at least in texas it is...lol.
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I think his point is, the people we DON'T want to have automatic weapons ALREADY have them. So we might as well give responsible people some to defend themselves. And I suppose I agree with that statement.
but the issue is...regular people who defend themselves with a glock or maybe a Desert Eagle handgun...aren't getting thier houses robbed by mexican gangsters carrying ak47's or AR-15's... people who "nickel & Dime" rob like rob houses or car jack people (which is where the everyday civilian carrying a weapon comes into play 99% of the time) are carrying a glock themselves or maybe a nickel or at the most a magnum 357...they aren't car jacking with automatic weaponry...let the police who fight the gangmembers actually carrying heavy weaponry around fight them with the heavy weaponry...let the people who get robbed by someone with a glock carry a glock or similar weapon...

I mean like mega said...if you let someone carry an Ak-47 why not just allow average american to carry a portable grenade launcher? why stop at automatic weaponry might as well go all the way...
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if you're gonna use gang wars as an excuse to give weapons to civilians, lets go ahead and arm everyone in mexico right now...they know first hand how brutal gang violence is since they've been experiencing it on a massive level the past couple of years...

but if gangs ever took to the streets to waste civilians, they instantly become al qaeda...a group of criminals who target civilians to get their point across through fearmongering and violence. so if that ever happens, civilians don't need to fight them, the military does...or that's what i've learned the past decade anyway, lol.
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Personally, I'm not too big on civilians having guns. When it comes down to it, they cause a hell of a lot more problems than they solve. Also, this talk about citizens possibly being allowed automatic weapons, is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard. A handgun for self defense is one thing, which even them I'm still not too hyped about, but automatic guns are just completely uncalled for and unnecessary.

The potential for bloodshed and innocent lives being taken is just way too much of a risk. It takes just one irresponsible person to mess things up and start an unnecessary exhibition of gunfire and warfare.
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if you really wanna shoot off some clips of an AK or something awesome like that...how about letting gun ranges rent these guns out? problem solved.
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