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Old 11-04-2010, 08:33 PM   #1 (permalink)
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An Odd Story I Wanted Your Opinion On


The Vermont Supreme Court has upheld a lower-court ruling that granted custody of an eight-year-old girl to her non-biological mother in a long-running lesbian custody case. (See earlier story)


The biological mother, Lisa Miller, became a Christian, gave up the lesbian lifestyle, and moved with her daughter to Virginia. But a 2009 order, which awarded sole custody of Isabella to non-biological mother Janet Jenkins, was upheld Monday by the Vermont Supreme Court.

Miller is represented by Liberty Counsel -- whose founder, Mat Staver, tells OneNewsNow he is not surprised by the ruling.

"They have invented the law as they have gone in the situation; and in fact, they have changed the law as it existed in Vermont regarding parental rights and child custody and raising constitutional issues," he contends.

The court never addressed whether a third party, the non-biological mother in this case, can intervene in a biological parent-child relationship. Staver discusses that aspect.

"According to the U.S. Supreme Court and other cases dealing with the constitutional rights of parents, you cannot have a third party intervene unless there is some significant showing of abandonment, abuse, or neglect," the Liberty Counsel founder explains. "And there's nothing like that in this case."

In fact, the courts have admitted Miller is a fit mother. So according to those rulings, the former lesbian partner has no right to intervene. Staver is looking into the possibility of asking the U.S. Supreme Court to jump into the case and force the Vermont court to look at the constitutional issues.

Meanwhile, Miller failed to bring the eight-year-old girl to a court-ordered custody swap in January, and the whereabouts of the two remain unknown.

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Old 11-04-2010, 08:35 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This is just a story I saw a while back. Whether you're pro-*** or not, this just seems odd for the real mother to not get custody. I also think it's stupid that she took the kid and ran. :/
What do you all think? Should the real mother get custody?
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I'd think the biological mother would get custody, unless she was unfit to be a mother somehow. Now that she ran, maybe that's a sign that the court made the right choice? Just a thought.
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Why would she ever lose custody in the first place?......something else is going on here methinks.......
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This is just a story I saw a while back. Whether you're pro-*** or not, this just seems odd for the real mother to not get custody. I also think it's stupid that she took the kid and ran. :/
What do you all think? Should the real mother get custody?
From what I read it looks like the lady she walked out on got her nose out of joint cause she lost her partner and child, as you would expect. I think they should both be able to see the child that is assuming both parents are fit to be parents.
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What if she didn't want her daughter to be around a lesbian? She should have the right to decide who her child spends time with.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:30 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Why would she ever lose custody in the first place?......something else is going on here methinks.......
lol, like pro-ga.y government cover-up to appease the liberals?
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lol, like pro-ga.y government cover-up to appease the liberals?
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that must be it! I think we are on to something here lol
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only reason i could think is that maybe the biological mother was a bad parent? strange story though.
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